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214 – An Unacceptably Low Cylinder Compression

This is a good looking exhaust valve with a nice concentric appearance. However, the compression was very low at 8/80.

I lapped the valve, hoping it would improve the compression test result… it only came up to 10/80, and that was after running the engine again and getting it nice and hot.

Although the valve face showed a healthy appearance, the seating area was telling a different story. Check out the following borescope photo of the seating area showing a possible leaking area:

It appeared there was abnormal wear on the valve seat, and the valve was not able to seal well, causing an unacceptably low compression result.

Listen to the audio for more details on this one.

I asked the question, “Borescope or compression tester… which one is better?”

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We ended up sending cylinder #5 out for repair, and then reinstalling it.

We did a test flight today, and everything went very well… ready to go for another year!


Here are some links to information on cylinder / engine break-in procedures:

Lycoming SI1427C

Savvy Aviation / EAA webinar slides by Mike Busch (Cylinder Break-In.)

Let me know if you find other excellent resources on this topic.


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172 – A Perplexing Low Cylinder Compression on a Piper Saratoga

12/80! That’s a terrible compression test result. And unlike some cylinders, this one did not show any obvious reasons for the low compression… take a look at the valves after the cylinder was removed:

Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything that would explain such a low compression number. The cylinder has been shipped to Tim Barnes at Skyline Cylinders for repair, so I’m hoping he will be able to give me more information about it. You can listen to the audio for more thoughts about this whole experience, and maybe I’ll give an update on it in a future episode.


I also mentioned in this episode my latest project in the shop at Classic Aviation – an annual inspection on a nice E33A Bonanza:

It’s a great airplane, with a great owner – now that’s a good combination!


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131 – Drew Wright’s Cessna 182 Exhaust Valve Lapping Success!

During the recent annual inspection on Drew Wright’s Cessna 182, cylinder #1 had a low compression of 42/80. However, with the amazing technology of borescoping, he was able to take a look inside the cylinder. The nice concentric circle of deposits on the face of the exhaust valve indicates a healthy valve. Drew wondered if perhaps this valve would be a good candidate for lapping in place, without removing the cylinder.

Even though the valve appeared healthy, Drew noticed a significant amount of air leaking out the exhaust during the compression test. Once again, his borescope was very helpful in observing the condition of the exhaust valve and seat area. The valve looks good, except for the rough and uneven seating area.

The seat also looks good, except for the corresponding rough and uneven seating area.

With the supervision of his A&P, Drew was able to remove the rocker cover and the exhaust valve springs. After verifying the valve guide was in good condition with no excessive wear, and the valve was sliding freely in the valve guide, he was ready to “lap” the valve (to apply a small amount of valve grinding compound to the edge of the valve using a long Q-tip through the top spark plug hole, and spinning the valve against the seat to smooth out and improve the seating area.)

Drew used a piece of wood dowel rod, some clear tubing, and some hose clamps, for this task… I like his idea so much, I’m planning to use this technique in the future.

One of the most important parts of the lapping process, is cleaning out the residue after the job is finished. One method is to spray Av-gas into the top spark plug hole to wash the grinding compound off the valve and the surrounding areas, and let it run out the bottom spark plug hole. Multiple washings, along with some compressed air, cleans up the area very well.

An additional thing Drew did was to push a thin cloth into the top spark plug hole, and pull the valve back to squeeze the cloth between the valve and valve seat. Then, he could turn the valve against the cloth and clean the seating area even better. I’m also going to keep that little tip in mind for my next lapping project. Thanks Drew!


The seating area of the valve showed a nice smooth band after the lapping was done – very impressive!

After the lapping was completed, a new rotator was installed on the exhaust valve, everything was reassembled, and the compression immediately improved!

But the best result was the compression test that was done after running the engine… that same cylinder that was 42/80, now had a compression of 78/80! What a fantastic result, and now, hopefully that cylinder will run reliably for many more hours.

Be sure to listen to the audio for this episode for more details about Drew’s adventure. He also shared about an induction leak that was visible because of some blue fuel staining.

After removing the intake pipe, it was obvious the gasket had shifted out of position during the assembly process many years ago… perhaps this was part of the poor idling problem that was also corrected during the annual inspection. After installing a new intake gasket and adjusting the idle mixture setting, the engine idled much better than before.

Drew’s story is a true inspiration in so many ways.

So, if you, as an airplane owner, have an interest in learning and getting involved in the maintenance, just find an A&P who is willing to give you some supervision to keep things legal, and you’ll have all kinds of possibilities.

Well done Drew, on your exhaust valve lapping project! I’m thrilled with the result you achieved on this one!

Drew has a young family, and it makes me happy to know he’s taking such good care of his airplane… after all, he’s got some precious cargo to haul around!